Ya bro GJ 1 & 2 quality really no horse run. Well usually I go to ktv as a guest with some bosses due to work, most of the times I do not dabao from there. Even Wonderland I try not to dabao too. I have few "friends" who ask for $50-80 as alternative. But id be here for a long time bro, definitely there is a need to explore cheaper thrill with lower expectations.
golden jazz dynasty or international club? solo can go? haha
After reading so many comments, tot I would add in abit. My last trip to PP was like 10+ years ago. Work/business trip. Total went there 3-4 times each time spending a week or plus there.
I guess 10+ years ago PP was still not that established yet. Anyway was being brought around by the business guys over there(Malaysian, viet, local). Ktvs and 1 stretch of local bars by the river. The bar 1 small Heineken was $1USD. So freaking cheap. Lol
Back to story, the girls there were quite dark skin, not to my likings( I guess mostly same for all sg). But on my 1st trip on the 3rd day, 1 colleague brought me to a bar by the river, and I saw a white skin local lady and cfm looks which I did not see last night. I think hosay liao, finally found a pattern I like. Talk to her whole night, play pool, buy her drinks... And barfine(forgot barfine how much) her, bring her out for LT at $50USD(at that time is consider foreigner price) but to me is totally worth it.
Went back hotel, 1 shot, shower, chat and sleep.
Wake up morning 1 shot, shower and I go work.(she stay in my hotel room and sleep again)
Lunch time ta bao back hotel and 1 shot. Shower, eat lunch together with her. Then she continue stay in hotel watch tv etc. While I left and work. Finish work, came back hotel to pick her and send her home.
Next day went to the bar again to directly bar fine for her and go dinner etc etc and back hotel. Lol
So I think at that time $50USD was totally worth it.
She stayed with me for the whole week duration. She says she working at the bar full time, so everyday around 6-7pm she has to report to the bar 1st then I can go barfine. Don't know true or not.
For the next few trips to PP, she was my regular part time wife for the week duration. Hahaha... 👍
Yeah, agree. Not that I don't understand that inflation and the world expenses have risen. However, you look at it there. There is nothing productive. They are quite left behind and with a strongly growing population. Where are all these people gonna find work? Competition is the one thing driving down prices. Look at CHINA. who dares to say they are not rich or superpower now. However, the prices are still cheap in general, or at least cheaper compare to Singapore. Why? Cause their population is so big, not everyone can have the high life or sustain the high life. Competitions are strong there. You sure can find better deals if you put in the efforts too.
Actually, I also encountered the same thing as you bro. However, mine is just 2019 before covid. That time, I went to several bars, to drink and scout the lady I like. Then, around 1-2 am I forgot, I went back to the bar with that lady I like. Of course, previously I had already treated her to some drinks and built rapport with her. Then I asked her if she is willing to go back with me for $50. I didn't state LT or ST cause $50 can be ST (higher end) or LT (lower end). She agreed cause she don't go then tonight she got no customer cause the bar also closing soon. Then I bar fine her then left. Similarly like your girl, she stayed till the afternoon and still doesn't want to leave my hotel. I have to bring her lunch and etc. I believe, their living conditions must be very bad maybe even no aircon that they will rather stay longer in Hotel.
The next day I offered $60 USD to another girl (more chio and younger) she also stayed till the next day. Sometimes, I encountered a girl that asked me to go back hotel first, she will come to find me after the bar closes to save me the bar fine. HEHE. All these are before covid times. I just went to Siem Reap and PP recently. OMG, it is a far cry from pre covid time. No tourists, no customers, empty shops/closed shops but lots of girls. Supply far exceed the demand and their country is not productive and cannot attract big investors and developments so not many ex-pats too. Unlike Singapore, we are the world's best, we are the top country in this covid time and we come out even better than before. In Cambodia, the situation totally does not go in line with the prices.
Nevertheless, I also don't wanna force my thinking on anyone. Let me try and explore this time and see if there are any good deals or not. I don't believe in saying or writing so much. Just try the actual heh.
Well bro bolueeleh already well explained on this part. You know truly well too that local girls are mostly deadfish and boring. Thats why Viets and Thais are on demand here, especially most can speak basic chinese/english, hence they call the shots.
You may think that you want to maintain your offer and not give in to the price hike but you may not know that vice versa, the girls too have their own community encouraging them not to take up cheaper offers. This is the truth bro.
Anyway, I am not sure about the bar scene. Hopefully you get to get some good deals off. Good luck for your trip.
Those know chinese their price are sky rocket cos they target Chinese. Ah tiongs are spoiling market everywhere including Cambodia. Moreover those tiongs there are richer than you can imagine cos their business not legitimate to begin with. Paying 1k or 2k a shot at GJ is not a problem for them. Hence driving prices up especially in shv n pp. Suggest to avoid tiongs infested ktvs and naga area. No 200usd no tok.
Well bro bolueeleh already well explained on this part. You know truly well too that local girls are mostly deadfish and boring. Thats why Viets and Thais are on demand here, especially most can speak basic chinese/english, hence they call the shots.
You may think that you want to maintain your offer and not give in to the price hike but you may not know that vice versa, the girls too have their own community encouraging them not to take up cheaper offers. This is the truth bro.
Anyway, I am not sure about the bar scene. Hopefully you get to get some good deals off. Good luck for your trip.
Well, I am not a lower baller and I feel I am much better than average in terms of finances. However, I strongly believe in paying the market price and try not to go below or far exceed. I don't like to exploit people or be exploited. So far, the locals I encountered were all not so bad. I think how you build rapport does matter a lot. I will still offer what I feel is right after reviewing the situation there. I just went there last March which is so bad compared to pre-covid time. If I were to offer I would offer lower than before seriously, looking at the demand compared to the number of customers. However, I will still stick to the old rates.
Is ok that some girls have their supporters. However, I don't believe they make up the majority of the population. There are far more girls looking for a job. Just avoid those living in their dreams. After their supporters left for better girls, they will wake up and go back to before cause life needs to go on. By then, don't forget girls are priced according to looks and age. They might not command the same price anymore. So they better wake up their ideas. I am a too practical person. Sorry but this is a harsh world.
Anyway, this time going there I also giving PP one last chance to see if I want to buy a property there for retirement next time. So far I like there, If the cost of livings and playing there is not in line with their developments and they also never wake up. I will not invest there and instead move elsewhere. Aug I will also go to Vietnam for the first time to explore and see the rates there. I don't go Vietnam previously cause I feel they are anti-Chinese or bad people in general. However, I still need to give them a review to make a better investment choice. Generally, who doesn't agree that Vietnamese is prettier, sexier and fairer. If need to pay such a high price, I rather pay for a Vietnamese than a Cambodian. The reason for choosing Cambodia is the cost they must not forget this. If not they are totally off the competitive markets.
Those know chinese their price are sky rocket cos they target Chinese. Ah tiongs are spoiling market everywhere including Cambodia. Moreover those tiongs there are richer than you can imagine cos their business not legitimate to begin with. Paying 1k or 2k a shot at GJ is not a problem for them. Hence driving prices up especially in shv n pp. Suggest to avoid tiongs infested ktvs and naga area. No 200usd no tok.
I think they tone down already bro. Their CCP already wack them jialat jialat. Catching corruption and so on. Now is so much different from last time. The situation in Sihanoukville also improving as their police and china police combine to wack them hard too cause too many china people forced to work and enslaved there too.
Remember last time I said I went to a bar the girl quoted me 100 for a shot or ST I don't remember. This time I am going back to test if she wakes up already or not. The last time she told me China people tip her $500. I asked her where are they now? She is not happy so after 4 months, let's see if she wakes up already or not. If the situation there and girls don't wake up, I just strike off PP as a retirement place next time and don't invest in there.
Paying 1k or 2k a shot at GJ is not a problem for them. Hence driving prices up especially in shv n pp. Suggest to avoid tiongs infested ktvs and naga area. No 200usd no tok.
Yup bro too many showing off cash kings in pp spoiled the market. I stopped chiong pp also few years back before covid. Rates ridiculous.
Market went crazy after Hun Sen sold the country to China... all the ah tiong cockroach started to dominate Sihanou, PP and SR.
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I guess 10+ years ago PP was still not that established yet. Anyway was being brought around by the business guys over there(Malaysian, viet, local). Ktvs and 1 stretch of local bars by the river. The bar 1 small Heineken was $1USD. So freaking cheap. Lol
I still remember the golden era, the good old days... US$50 got drunk n a ger back with spare cash. Now in PP, US$50 can only drink n go back pcc.
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Well the casino is still operating thou they dont serve free beer now, only mineral water
Can check out Darlin, they have local fl but expect $150ups.
So bad? I used to play slot machine and shouted "picture" with free beer before heading to riverside.
Time to revisit PP... after 2 yrs. Last heard from friend, no more river crossing to HCMC by bus.
Market went crazy after Hun Sen sold the country to China... all the ah tiong cockroach started to dominate Sihanou, PP and SR.
I still remember the golden era, the good old days... US$50 got drunk n a ger back with spare cash. Now in PP, US$50 can only drink n go back pcc.
So bad? I used to play slot machine and shouted "picture" with free beer before heading to riverside.
Time to revisit PP... after 2 yrs. Last heard from friend, no more river crossing to HCMC by bus.
wah u really long time no come to PP liao.. prices damn ex now.. hyperinflation.. crazy girl prices at some ridiculous places especially tiong infested ktv and naga.. if Naga is on the boat during your era.. lol
wah u really long time no come to PP liao.. prices damn ex now.. hyperinflation.. crazy girl prices at some ridiculous places especially tiong infested ktv and naga.. if Naga is on the boat during your era.. lol
Naga on boat... those days PP was a cowboy town while NGO went around to shut down brothel. Thanks Cambodia 吳三桂 for the ridiculous prices.
Just reach PP. got so many girls WeChat me. Arranged for a ST one for a chiobu based on WeChat photos for $100. When reach she looked totally diff. Was thinking just fuck through it but come in she dead fish. Knn. Bad start to the trip.
Just reach PP. got so many girls WeChat me. Arranged for a ST one for a chiobu based on WeChat photos for $100. When reach she looked totally diff. Was thinking just fuck through it but come in she dead fish. Knn. Bad start to the trip.
Brother u never requote her 30-50 for ST??? Somemore u never talk to her (no rapport confirm dead fish) in real life nor see her and in real life she is worse and u all just pay like that. How to not inflate and push the price up? If her kind of standard also can receive this kind of pay. Why should the prettier ones accept lower than 100USD then. This is why the price inflated so much. It is like you all just can't wait to pay and spend all your money.
If you guys are not rich don't just go there and anyhow inflate the prices without even do due diligent checks. Spend like already then don't come here kaobei since those kaobei one are not that rich to feel no pain at all. No thanks for further inflating the prices stupidly.